Comments on: Women’s Clothing at Colonial Michilimackinac https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/ Clothing.To Tue, 27 Nov 4891 10:07:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.7 By: S12 B https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1375 Tue, 27 Nov 4891 10:07:40 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1375 Gasp! No! You broke the golden rule: SHOES BEFORE CORSET. (but lols aside, educational, thank you).

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By: Daniel Valencia https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1372 Tue, 27 Nov 2891 10:06:38 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1372 In reply to Pntngbrn.

In the Middle Ages you had what was called “the sumptuary laws” which defined who can wear what depending on your status and wealth. It was during this time that garments became more fitting to the body with the invention of the button/ buttonhole. Back then only royalty and nobility could use buttons and button holes and actually the number of buttons were a distinguished mark of your status well up to the early 18th century. However It was only in the middle ages and up to the renaissance that it was actually really enforced by law. Things started to shift and by the 18th century everyone had the same cut essentially, the only thing that would differentiate class would be the materials used in clothing as well as the embellishments. But Even a working class man/ woman could have a huge amount of buttons and button holes on their garments without repercussions. It did of course take more money and time. With women’s clothing however even the Queen of France would pin close her bodice’s to her stays for practicality, the stomacher would be pined as well sometimes. This was done as to not include buttons that disrupt the overall design of the gown. So pins weren’t just used by one class. It depends on the garment. Like Redingotes were fastened with buttons at the front while a robe a la francaise might be pined close. Remember that even monarchs wore the same cut of chemise or undershirt as peasants. Theirs was cleaned with blueing dye to keep it white and was probably very well sewn with the best fabrics and lots of ruffles….more than the common man could afford.

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By: Mackinac State Historic Parks https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1396 Sun, 27 Nov 2242 08:59:37 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1396 In reply to neolexington.

@neolexington Thanks! Hope you’re able to visit Colonial Michilimackinac for the tricentennial!

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By: Zoe Bechler https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1393 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1393 I want to work there now! XD

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By: JustAnotherPotato https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1384 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1384 In reply to Katherine Broberg.

Katherine Broberg working women would untie their corset, at the front, rich women never breastfed. they hired wet nurses

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By: SKat Foster https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1385 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1385 In reply to Katherine Broberg.

Some stays had laces in the front so they could be opened to nurse.

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By: Virginia Crawford: Designer, Dressmaker, Costumier https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1386 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1386 When you were putting the jacket on, what was the cord that came from the sleeve?

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By: Lillie George https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1387 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1387 In reply to Virginia Crawford: Designer, Dressmaker, Costumier.

@Mackinac State Historic Parks THATS AMAZING! I try stuff like holding the ends, but you can’t do that with a 3/4 sleeve dress! great tip!

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By: Mackinac State Historic Parks https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1388 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1388 In reply to Virginia Crawford: Designer, Dressmaker, Costumier.

: Since the sleeves on this style of jacket are well-fitted, I use the string to keep my shift sleeve from getting bunched up. It works like a dream. I loop the string through my shift sleeve, hold the string in my hand and then put on the jacket. No bunches. Pro tip.

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By: Allegory of Wolves https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1389 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1389 I’ve been a reenactor here in Germany myself, for the medieval time periods, though. Loads of fun! 🙂
I also love to sew and make old costumes. I’ve been looking at especially 17th century clothing lately, thinking about attempting to make such a costume. However, I’ve noticed how lots of pieces of the garments in 17th and 18th century clothing are pinned together with straight pins, as you have done here for your working dress.
Perhaps I’ll rather opt to use hooks instead (no matter if that’s historically accurate or not), because I’m worried about pricking myself with the pins if they slip halfway out of the fabric. Now, does that happen? Do the pins ever come loose, or do you sometimes lose them entirely, when moving about in these clothes a lot?
In 17th century clothing, I’ve also seen the pins being pinned directly into the stays, to keep the gown, which is worn over them, in place. While stays are somewhat stiff, you can still bend in them a bit, and I’d imagine the pins would not stay in place properly then. What’s your experience with this?

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By: shockvaluecola https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1390 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1390 In reply to Allegory of Wolves.

it helped when you were used to pinning your clothing. as a comparison, zippers can get stuck, and if they’re on a jacket you have to feed them in and line them up properly — a woman from the 18th century would probably struggle with zippered clothing, but we can handle them because we’ve been doing them from the age of 3 or 4. likewise, women were wearing long skirts and pinned jackets from the age of 3 or 4, so they were good at placement and didn’t need to lift skirts to walk most of the time. it would be very uncommon to prick yourself with jacket pins, since you tucked the point in toward the stays, which were too thick to be jabbed through.

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By: Allegory of Wolves https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1391 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1391 In reply to Allegory of Wolves.

Interesting! Thank you for the reply! 🙂 So it does actually happen, that the pins sometimes move, bend, fall out or prick you. I was really wondering, because I can’t imagine them all staying in place, when someone, for exapmle, has to work really hard in their clothes, no matter how careful the pins might be placed (though I’m sure that helps). Now I imagine all the maids or farmers wives of old yelling: “Darn, it happened again!” throughout the day. XD

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By: SKat Foster https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1392 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1392 In reply to Allegory of Wolves.

I volunteer in clothing like this. I sometimes pin my shortgown or jacket closed and often wear an apron with a bib that is pinned to my clothing. I have occasionally lost or bent pins. I’ve only rarely jabbed myself when one moved out of place. You learn to place the pins carefully.

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By: Katherine Broberg https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1382 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1382 Looking at these traditional outfits I always wonder…How the heck did women breast-feed in these???

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By: James Richardson https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1394 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1394 She is very beautiful?!!?

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By: neolexington https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1395 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1395 Great information, thank you for sharing! Hope to be up there this summer!

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By: Finasol https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1397 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1397 This is such an interesting video! Thank you for uploading it! I do have one question: How hot is it under all those layers? Does it get uncomfortable or are you pretty much used to it?

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By: hopegirl518 Ashlynn https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1398 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1398 In reply to Finasol.

Lea Zoeph
Plenty of historical reanacters say it isn’t to bad.Keep in mind all of this was made of natural fabrics thar breathed well.

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By: Mark Morse https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1399 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1399 Man I miss working there. Worked from 95-2001

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By: Aristo 1530 https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1400 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1400 I’m going to move to one of these.

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By: Vick Clark https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1401 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1401 This just made research 100x easier for me. Thank you!!!

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By: MsAjg2011 https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1402 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1402 Thank you for this descriptive, yet accessible explanation for my students.

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By: marie elena https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1403 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1403 very beautiful clothes,thanks!

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By: Angie S https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1404 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1404 Omg you look so beautiful!!!. ?

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By: shockvaluecola https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1370 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1370 In reply to Pntngbrn.

buttons are in evidence from at least the mid-middle ages! but the problem is your clothes needed to cope with pregnancy and the return of your figure without you needing new clothes — you could only afford one or two sets to begin with unless you were very wealthy. so buttons aren’t really good for that the way pins are.

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By: Whimsy https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1360 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1360 In reply to spacelove 13.

When you’re texting a naughty Amish girl who’s not supposed to have Internet…

Him: Heey. Show me a pic of you in your underwear.

Her:

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By: val Fletcher https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1361 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1361 In reply to spacelove 13.

@AND ANDREY ISN’T HERE Thank you. That was bugging me! I try not to be petty but DANG people need to read or something! Today I saw Illinois spelled :Illinoise”….and just had to SMH.

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By: john Mullholand https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1362 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1362 In reply to spacelove 13.

spacelove 13 Even more scandalous when you consider that by the standards of the day she would be considered “naked”! LOL

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By: AND ANDREY ISN'T HERE https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1363 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1363 In reply to spacelove 13.

spacelove 13 *chemise

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By: B B https://www.clothing.to/womens-clothing-at-colonial-michilimackinac/#comment-1364 Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 https://www.clothing.to/?p=1188#comment-1364 I work as an interpretor in the same time period as she does (in canada though) and I can vouch for the fact that your body adjusts itself much better temperature wise than you would think. The clothes are uncomfortable for the first few days but that’s it! After a while you actually start feeling uncomfortable not having a stay (or corset) on during the work day.. And sometimes we actually start feeling cold after we change out into modern clothing at the end of the day because of being so used to our interpretor uniforms

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