Poor victim

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@302shmed Some people do swim in shirt, and most people did it 100 years ago. So it is not hard of impossible.

@302shmed in till eary 19th century, most people used to wear long gowns and shirt near beaches, it was considered crime to go shirtless near some beaches.

I know the struggle, but the same modesty rules apply whether you’re at the beach or not. There are modest options, but don’t expect them to look good.

@Sharon Cullen Art I think when you present it like that compared to your previous comments that makes sense and it makes me feel better. But I must say that I too believe that like physical movements, sex, money are not to be of evil but can be a blessing when done right according to scripture. Yet, unfortunately many fall and stumble into belief systems and practices which they don’t understand can slowly lead them into deception. And that’s where I see many Christians fail to comprehend that one must be in the world but not of the world, and therefore reading your previous comments made me want to address this concern to you.

@Kevin I am sorry for your loss of faith. Mine is very strong, and I do not do yoga! I’m disabled. I couldn’t do it if wanted to. I used to, but it is not the movement that is the problem in yoga which was my point. It is the spiritual basis of it that is the problem. God does not care how we move our bodies to stretch. He cares about our beliefs, and how we treat others. Movement is not sacrilege. Beliefs can be. I think I have proved my point. And I have gone through a 4 year program on theology and the study of every single chapter of the Bible and I understand it well. I also understand the Catechism of the Catholic Church well. So don’t worry about me.

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Ngl I laughed

You clearly haven’t been around very many drunk people, children, or yoga pants.

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@Βασιλεύς Ἀλέξιος Κομνηνὸς you have a valid point but then we get too far into “preventing scandal” that we do more harm than good. At some point we all trade some modesty for style. If ultimate modesty was the goal we would be all commanded to wear hijabs becauses there’s no lusting after those. Same thing that goes for alchohol consumption, we need to be careful not to scandalize but we need to not take it so far as to outlaw any form of consumption outside of communion like some protestants do. I in no way am excusing the abuses of clothing by my generation, I very much agree with you, but It is also not right to throw the baby out with the bathwater

@Catholic POV Even if worded as friendly as possible the point is still the same because we do not most modest clothing because it is not appealing . Even in the most traditional circles women and men wear things that make them look more appealing to each other which makes them and their bodies look more appealing. This is why we don’t force men not to shave or force women to wear complete body and face coverings because that is modesty taken to an extreme.

@AmorOmnibus ahh okay. I see what you mean, I’n intellectual conversations I really cannot stand it when people tiptoe over things so I really try to avoid doing it myself. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong but I’m very strong at sticking to not doing anything I don’t like others doing.

so its all about the purpose?

Is she part of Opus Dei?

*Clean the inside of the cup* . . .as well as the outside.

Easier said than done though.

Yes but virtue builds on virtue. Taking care of the outside can help us on the inside, and vice versa