Yoga Pants Tycoon Ousted After Controversial Remarks
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"Chip Wilson, who founded upscale yoga apparel retailer Lululemon Athletica Inc., will resign as chairman next year, the company said while also announcing that it had found a replacement for its outgoing chief executive.
Laurent Potdevin, president of Santa Monica shoe company Toms and a former CEO of Burton Snowboards, will take over from Lululemon Chief Executive Christine Day in January. Potdevin will also become a Lululemon board member.
Day had stayed on with the company to help find her successor after announcing plans in June to step down.
Swapping out Wilson was a more unexpected move."* The Young Turks hosts Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian break it down.
*Read more here from Tiffany Hsu / LA Times:
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Nothing is more entertaining than those rare moments when Cenk and Ana quip at each other, such as here when he accused her saying he’s obese, and she’s like “I didn’t call you obese; you called yourself obese and I didn’t argue with you” Where’s that cat fight graphic when you need it lol
I agree with Cenk. They’re private companies…so, let them make whatever sizes they want.
You’re always the top comment on TYT videos……… #Suspect
He’s right. Anybody who is ‘offended’ merely marginalizes their own self-confidence.
Well, he is right. I’ll say that certain kinds of clothes only look good on specific builds, you are free to wear them but know that you won’t look good and people are not obligued to tell you otherwise. I am fat, and I will never wear a slim fit suit until I lose enough weight.
@***** – Agreed 100%. And being overweight doesn’t mean someone is ugly. There are many women and men who are still attractive while being overweight or “fat”. However, just because one can still look good while being overweight does not mean that being overweight is a good thing or healthy. We all need to try to get as close as we can to our optimal weight if for nothing else other than our health and living a long life with as few medical issues as possible. And there’s no shame in wearing clothes that are appropriate for one’s figure. There are also many outfits that don’t look good for skinny or very thin people. Women who are very thin tend to look like they’re wearing a tent when they wear dresses or skirts made for voluptuous women or women with *ahem* “generous” bosoms and/or posteriors. Just like skinny guys who wear business casual clothes very loose (like you see on some of these daytime TV shows) just look silly. It makes them look like middle school boys playing dress-up in their father’s clothes. Or guys who wear muscle shirts but have little to no muscle tone.
While it was insensitive how they made their comments, they are not technically wrong. There is a geometric limit at which these pants can operate in a non-defective manner as the fabric can only stretch so much before the fibers begin revealing whats underneath.
The fact that they have a proportions limit in inches shows that it is no different from things such as skateboards or other toys setting a weight limit. The fabric can only stretch so far just as a skateboard can only support so much weight. We wouldn’t say a skateboard discriminated against fat people if physically couldn’t hold an infinite amount of weight. If the clothing stretched too much because their proportions exceeded the maximum size, their wearing of it constituted literally misuse of the product and thus it cannot be by the letter of the law considered “defective” (we wouldn’t conclude that someone who was 100lb over the weight limit for a skateboard didn’t misuse it by riding it. It would be different if they claimed they were one size fits all but in reality, no one has ever made that claim.
Unlike the Abercrombie thing, yoga pants can stretch thus giving the illusion that one can wear them even if they don’t appear to be the right size. As such, it is actually necessary to say that certain women LITERALLY can’t wear them as they exceed the proportional limit and thus they cannot function properly. As I said, it would be no different than a skateboard company putting a weight limit on them. The physical properties of the product can only support so much.
I don’t think enough attention was paid to the significance of Lulu’s stocks falling. This is clearly a testament to the degree of obesity in American females. And i say females because, believe me, no male in their right mind would go out of their way to ensure that obese women are wearing skin tight clothing. The truth is that obese and large women simply do not look good in tight clothing. It is completely fair for a company to promote their product to the demographic it was originally intended for, which is women with more slim figures. The drama here is just a product of the classic American hypersensitivity.
@moonlily1 I agree with your comment to an extent. The only part I don’t agree with is saying they are fat. Only because lululemon doesn’t make a size over 12. So women with bigger hips and thighs may not fit into them but it may not be because they are fat. Its just they are bigger than the size. Unless you believe all women a size 14 are fat.
I did address your comments, and quite directly. You assert that the “controversy” comes not from the product itself but because the customers are apparently fat, and fat women are squeezing themselves into overtight clothing and rendering it sheer by overstretching the fabric. The chairman’s originally comment was that the quality issues are the result of women’s thighs rubbing together and such women shouldn’t wear their pants. I explained that thighs touching is normally, the issues reported with lululemon’s clothing is not a common problem with women’s clothing no matter what the size, and generally most heavy women do not pour themselves into too-tight clothes. And also, both your argument and the now former chairman’s is based on conjecture, as neither of you have worn them yourselves or can see the people making the complaints.
@Kamui If you had actually READ what I was writing instead of commenting nonsensical, irrelevant garbage you would understand how incredibly incompetent you are. TRY IT. Go back, read all of my comments to you, then read all of your comments in response, and if you have even half of a brain cell you would possess the capability of realizing the weakness, irrelevance, and absurdity of your responses. (That is, considering you are actually literate, which at this point is completely up for debate given the incoherence of your “arguments”). Go.
@PremiumGaming Its funny, cause you failed so much all you have left is to just call me stupid. xD lmao
I see you didn’t take my advice. Just shameful. Hilarious, though, i must admit.
You are so unbelievably stupid; it amazes me.
As a kid who went to high school and saw the horrors of the wrong girls wearing yoga pants, this guy is just speaking dah troof.
Probably the only thing worse than seeing that as a straight guy is having to bear the sight of women with SERIOUS muffin top. Women with guts and flab wearing midriffs, lowrider jeans and clothes that are obviously several times too small for them because they think they look “cute” trying to mimic what skinny girls wear. It’s like guys with beer guts and moobs who try to wear skinny Abercrombie or American Eagle shirts or dress in too-small, tight button-up shirts trying to imitate New Jersey “guidos”.
There’s nothing that CEO said that was false.
I thought yoga was about spirituality, self-discovery, and health.
Not about brand clothing.
If I was a woman I’d immediately dismiss the brand just for calling itself “LuluLemon”. It sounds like something a drunk on the street mumbles to himself.
What was the controversy exactly? What he said made perfect sense. Not all pants are made one-size-fit-all. This just shows that feminism is gone way, way too far in the west. On a related note. Was that crazy CEO who yelled penis at meetings ousted yet? I bet not.
@shirehorse91 LOL Whatever you say… Troll on little lady, troll on.
@jmhanson02 LOL Stupid kid, keep avoiding and denying.
@shirehorse91 Yep, I don’t think you know what a straw man is. At all.
What a funny troll! Troll, why you so silly?
@Carlos Danger Yet another ‘stupid kid’ response. Stop wasting my time.
he was still right though.
Literally laughed out loud when Cenk said “Lululemonade”. Keep up the good work there hoss!
Take the sound board away from him please!! He is having way to much fun with it.
TYT should sell a “Bill O’Reilly Soundboard” and market it specifically to piss off extremely conservative family members during the Christmas Season.
@TH3 L4UGH1NG M4N
Come on man, read my comment again. You can’t possibly read my comment fully and then respond as you did.
@RiC David You know you can disagree with someone without being part of a label right? Not liking Steak doesn’t make you a vegan.
@TH3 L4UGH1NG M4N No no, you’re a lib. Get out of here with that talk of a third dimension – you’re here and he disagrees with you therefore you’re “a lib”. Don’t pretend people are more complex than abbreviated labels.
@***** dude I’m a Canadian with no party affiliation. you have to admit, O’Rielly is a fucking clod sometimes. Its why I said EXTREME conservatives.
Perfect gift for the Holidays!
Stop looking for something to be offended by… yes some things are really offensive but this is not a big deal.